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Hmm;
The US Supreme Court has made a huge call that could have severe consequences for Donald Trump – but he doesn’t appear fazed.

The court agreed on Friday to hear the former’s appeal of a ruling by Colorado’s highest court that would keep him off the presidential primary ballot in the western state.

The Supreme Court, which includes three justices appointed by the former president, said it would hear oral arguments in the high-stakes election case on February 8.
You see that entire statement seems bizarre, every other news source (probably apart from Fox) I have seen report on this say that Trump is absolutely terrified the Supreme Court will rule against him, as demonstrated by his utterly unhinged rants on Truth Social about anything and everything he doesn't like.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-ame ... f711ec4b05
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stevebrooks wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 pmTrump is absolutely terrified the Supreme Court will rule against him
I've been wondering how this might come about. My assumption is that the Trumpian justices are more interested in their own inflated egos than they are in law and justice. Worshipping Trump has facilitated their selfish ends until now. But they should be aware that supporting him in this case is to relinquish the power of their own lifetime appointments.
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stylofone wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:26 am
stevebrooks wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 9:00 pmTrump is absolutely terrified the Supreme Court will rule against him
I've been wondering how this might come about. My assumption is that the Trumpian justices are more interested in their own inflated egos than they are in law and justice. Worshipping Trump has facilitated their selfish ends until now. But they should be aware that supporting him in this case is to relinquish the power of their own lifetime appointments.
The Trump team have already started the narrative in case the SC rules against Trump to explain why the SC is wrong if they make a decision they don't like. Apparently if the SC rules against Trump the explanation is the SC justices were bending over backwards to appease the democrats so they appear unbiased, so yes they are scared.

In fact the idiot Habba has almost explicitly stated on public news channels that the justices should rule in Trumps favour because he appointed them, specifically singling out Kvanagh as a target.



So yes they are worried, they wouldn't be doing this sort of stuff trying to influence the Supreme Court Justices if the weren't shit scared!
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Oh the shit's hit the fan now, in a big way!
Donald Trump didn’t sign loyalty oath for Illinois ballot that pledges not to ‘advocate the overthrow of the government’
In 2016 and 2020, before the Jan. 6 insurrection, Trump did sign. President Joe Biden, who signed it, questioned why Trump “can’t bring himself to sign a piece of paper saying he won’t attempt a coup to overthrow our government.”
Apparently the argument around the reasoning for not signing it is;
“Why wouldn’t he sign it?” asked former Republican U.S. Rep. Adam Kinzinger, who served on the House Jan. 6th select committee and said he signed the state loyalty oath for each of his six terms in Congress.

“Has he been advised maybe not to sign it because maybe there’s some legal exposures…given that oath, if he signed it, would be a violation of everything he actually did on Jan. 6, 2021, and leading up to it?” Kinzinger said.
So he won't sign a pledge to not try and overthrow the government? Does this mean he already has plans to do so if he loses the next election? Because that's how this can be read!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2024/1/6/2 ... -red-scare
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Oow that's gotta hurt!

3:25 seconds during her defense of the Republican's not investigating Jarad Kushner and the 2b he got from Saudi Arabia she says, "Jarad is the only one we know who benefited in the billions from the Trump administration." Yes she said that out loud on a Fox news interview, that Jarad Kushner benefited in the billions from being in the Trump administration, yet they are going after Biden for 3m that can't be in any way connected to him, that was no benefit to him or anyone in his administration. So she straight out admitted they all know the Trump administration was as corrupt as fuck but they are simply going to refuse to investigate it!

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Junior fucking up again like he always does, I suspect he doesn't understand the Streisand Effect;

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So that's it, we've reached the end game, it's do or die for Trump now! That may be literally be all accounts!

At the trial on absolute presidential immunity the Trump legal team was asked, "if Trump ordered the Seal Team 6 top secret task force to kill his political rivals would be be immune in that case?"

The answer was "yes!" Don't believe me? Here it is;
“Could a president order SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival? That’s an official act, an order to SEAL Team Six?” Judge Florence Pan asked.

Trump lawyer John Sauer dithered, invoking the founding fathers and what they would intend in such a situation.

“I asked you a yes or no question,” Pan interrupted. “Could a president who ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution?”

“My answer is qualified yes. There is a political process that would have to occur under the structure of our Constitution which would require impeachment and conviction by the Senate.”
It extends further, as he would need to be impeached first, so the argument goes, if Trump in the last few days of his second term, just orders his secret teams to go around killing people, then faced with impeachment just resigned from the presidency, because you can only impeach a sitting president, then yes he could quite literally have anyone killed and get away with it. The argument is of course the judges to demonstrate the absurdity of absolute presidential immunity, I don't think on this basis they are going to rule in his favour!

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... al-team-6/

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As other pointed, some commentators, it goes further. To succeed in an impeachment you need a certain number of votes yes. If Trump did order people killed, impeachment was started and the vote was about to take place, suddenly a large number of congresspeople don't turn up for the vote, oh to bad say the Republican's, they should have made sure to have been here, impeachment fails because the Democrats can't manage their time properly. Then it turns out they were all killed before leaving for the Capitol that morning, them, their families and anyone else who could alert the authorities.

Let's continue that scenario.

Alarm are sounded, but it's to late, impeachment has failed, the Dem's no longer have the numbers to win another vote or even start an impeachment, any democrat candidates for the now empty seats mysteriously die the day of the elections and the Republicans win a clean sweep, see how that goes, the President is immune from all consequences, can just pardon anyone the justice system tries to charge with murder, it's the end of democracy. The President can cancel the next election by whatever means he wants, or just kill all the Dem candidates, I mean he's immune right?

Dictator on day one he said? Yes that's the day he orders the Democrats killed.
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Just to confirm, the above question about Seal Team 6 and the reply from Trump's lawyer set the 3 judge panel firmly against the appeal for absolute immunity, it will probably now move on to the Supreme Court, and if the factors involved in losing this case are also used then the SC must either rule against Trump, or become part of the dictatorship Trump is trying to create, and that won't go well with the public.

In fact such a ruling in Trump's favour would probably seal a 2024 Dem victory. No-one not a fanatic Trump supporter would support a President who has literally confirmed his capability of murdering political enemies with no possible retribution. I very much doubt whether the SC would dare to rule in Trump's favour following the events at the appeals court, but I suppose that remains to be seen.
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A Mastodon post spells it out for Trumpists.

https://federate.social/@mattblaze/111729182357407653
Matt Blaze @mattblaze@federate.social

Just for the record, in my opinion it shouldn't be legal for President Biden to order Navy seals to assassinate Donald Trump, and if he did that, I would be OK with him being prosecuted. Trump and I apparently disagree about this, which is weird.
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