Fortunately Trump has clarified, it won't just be Apple, it will be anyone that makes that product, I am guessing he means smartphones and not iPhones because only Apply make iPhones, but he said "Samsung and anyone else who makes that product," so sorry American's, you can't get away with just buying an Android phone, of any sort, he is basically tariffing an entire industry, I am not sure what makes him think he can pressure or demand the likes of Samsung to open phone manufacturing facilities in the US. Tell him he's dreaming, or delusional, someone please!stylofone wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 8:07 pmRemember when doddery Trump couldn't remember his name, so he just called him "Tim Apple"? I agree it's fun, because of the high likelihood that Trump's antics will have the same effect on American politics as they have in Canada and Australia. Dutton and co were strutting around like roosters a few months ago, I look forward to seeing the Republican party reduced to feather duster status like our battered and bloody conservatives here.stevebrooks wrote: ↑Sat May 24, 2025 1:18 am25% tariff on all Apple products that are manufactured outside the US. Now this is fun right, Trump is demanding that Apple manufacture iPhones in the US or be subject to tariffs, so what are the problems associated with manufacturing iPhones in the US, Tim Cook:
Reading more about Tim Apple, I note that he was appointed as Chief Operating Officer in 1998, and HE was the one responsible for the major wave of shutting US factories and shifting production to Taiwan. By the time the iphone came along, it was Taiwan/India/China all the way.
I've just finished reading "Overshoot" by William Catton, and one of his chapters is about how difficult it is for humans to press rewind. He gives the example of an epic restoration program to recreate a colonial neighbourhood in Wlliamsburg in the 1930s. It cost vastly more to rebuild the old structures in modern times than it was to put them there a century or more earlier.
It looks like the same principle applies to the industrial activities of Apple. In fact the entire basis of "make America great again", and Trump's dreams of reviving American manufacturing are pretty much impossible to achieve. And in the case of the iphone, it was never made in America anyway, it's completely a conception of globalisation, developed years after America fell behind Asia and lost the ability to make such a high-tech mass market device.
The end result, whichever way these companies go, is that smart phones in the US will be at least 25% more expensive, rising to 400% or 500% if anyone tries to manufacture in the US. But that won't happen will it, because anyone that tries to manufacture in the US will be stupidly expensive compared to imported phones with 25% tariff and they will sell zero phones, so they will either abandon the idea or simply go bust pretty quickly. Morons, morons everywhere!