Well it's all falling to pieces, the great peace maker Donald Trump has failed again, no end to the war in Ukraine in 24 hours, no agreement with Iran for nuclear weapons, keep in mind this is years after a tore up a perfectly good agreement, telling Israel to not attack Iran while US was negotiating, Hegseth in Congress refusing to deny that the Pentagon has plans to invade Panama and Greenland, all for nothing, Israel has launched pre-emptive strikes against Iran, both military and civilian targets, it's now war in the middle east while Trump probably golfs!
When asked at his next press conference he will probably say "I know nothing about it, I haven't been told anything."
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:46 pm
by stevebrooks
We've all seen the US propaganda side of the Chinese Trade "deal," now for the other sides propaganda, not so much a deal as business as usual apparently!
I mean who to believe? Yeah I know, one side a known liar, the other side a complete unknown, oh well.
Never seen this guy before but apparently he blogs direct from China for what it's worth.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:37 pm
by pipbarber
Netanyahu is insane. He seems to have swallowed Trump's nihilism pill. It's hard to imagine how the US won't be sucked directly into this war. But Iran is not Iraq, nor is it Afghanistan. My hope is that there are military people in the US that are capable of saying no to maga lunacy, but I'm doubtful there are any left.
As for us, i reckon China is clearly the less worse choice. We need to move in that direction and away from this Russia/Iran vs US/Israel madness, in my opinion. No one is winning this war, no one. All participants lose. All people lose. And for what? (Beside the egomania of three giant dicks and a collection of putrid theocracies). Nah, lets try and improve our China relations, they are obviously more rational at this point. (Of course they might seize the moment and invade Taiwan, but as long as they don't do that, the choice is a no brainer, surely?)
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2025 1:04 am
by stevebrooks
pipbarber wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:37 pm
Netanyahu is insane. He seems to have swallowed Trump's nihilism pill. It's hard to imagine how the US won't be sucked directly into this war. But Iran is not Iraq, nor is it Afghanistan. My hope is that there are military people in the US that are capable of saying no to maga lunacy, but I'm doubtful there are any left.
As for us, i reckon China is clearly the less worse choice. We need to move in that direction and away from this Russia/Iran vs US/Israel madness, in my opinion. No one is winning this war, no one. All participants lose. All people lose. And for what? (Beside the egomania of three giant dicks and a collection of putrid theocracies). Nah, lets try and improve our China relations, they are obviously more rational at this point. (Of course they might seize the moment and invade Taiwan, but as long as they don't do that, the choice is a no brainer, surely?)
Well that's all right then, thought America was going soft. It appears the entire "talks" with Iran were a smokescreen while the USA and Israel planned a pre-emptive strike. Yes despite all the Trump Admin denials it appears they were deeply involved with reconnaissance and surveillance, and probably targeting of individuals in Iran, I mean who better to track high level members of the Iranian government than US diplomats, who were strangely flown out the days before the attack;
Orders for all nonessential personnel to depart the US Embassy in Baghdad – which was already on limited staffing – was based on a commitment “to keeping Americans safe, both at home and abroad”, the Department of State said.
Speaking on Wednesday evening, US President Donald Trump said the order to move staff out had been given because the region “could be a dangerous place”.
“We’ll see what happens. We’ve given notice to move out, and we’ll see what happens,” Trump said.
It appears the US knew about the attack at least several days before the attacks took place.
There are suggestions, apparently reported by the Israel press, that missiles against Iran were launched from US bases in Iraq, if so this will also bring Iraq into the war, for a country to allow another power to use their territory as a missile launching platform seems....unwise indeed!
pipbarber wrote: ↑Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:37 pmNetanyahu is insane.
I remember when the world's most insane country, North Korea got nukes, and it was a disturbing moment. Iran, a candidate for the world's second most insane country, is well on the way. The already nuclear armed countries, including Israel, Russia and the US, are becoming more insane. Pakistan and India have their own brand of insanity, which they advertised recently. Trump's insanity includes a maniacal demand for other countries to spend massive amounts of money on defence. Australia's version is AUKUS. We're insane too! The environmental impact of MAKING all this military killing machinery is disastrous, let alone detonating it.
I might be on shaky ground using "insanity" to describe countries rather than individuals, but as an analogy it seems to make a lot of sense.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 9:35 am
by stylofone
Slightly more on topic, Trump's parade was pathetic.
During an interview following the parade a question was asked about the possibility of US getting involved in the Israel/Iran conflict and Trump stated directly that it may involve US troops on the ground in Iran, this is just going to keep getting worse, the protests in the US will become supercharged if he starts sending troops to Iran to fight for Israel, and that's what they will be doing, not fighting for the US or US interest, but fighting for Israel!
During an interview following the parade a question was asked about the possibility of US getting involved in the Israel/Iran conflict and Trump stated directly that it may involve US troops on the ground in Iran, this is just going to keep getting worse, the protests in the US will become supercharged if he starts sending troops to Iran to fight for Israel, and that's what they will be doing, not fighting for the US or US interest, but fighting for Israel!
I sort of disagree with your take Steve. US troops on the ground may serve Israel's interest, (though i would argue it does not serve the interests of the Jewish diaspora nor the interests of average Israelis) but they would also serve Trump's interests. I agree that it would not be in America's interest to send troops to Iran, but America's interests and Trump's interests are simply not the same thing.
It's like neoliberalism's need for perpetual growth to continue. Maga, like all autocracies, especially of the fascist variety, needs perpetual emergency to continue. They cannot afford a moment's calm because the wolves would be at the door in an instant. The Dem's, the media, the judiciary, foreign allied governments and...the people all start to ask questions, litigate and fight back. In the cycle of endless catastrophe and emergency there simply isn't the space for such resistance, or at least it makes resistance much harder.
Endless emergency is the fuel of fascism. It has no limitations whatsoever. I feel it's a race between ending maga and maga nuking someone. Starting a major war is an obvious emergency strategy. What Trump really needs is for Iran to attack the US directly, that would justify an invasion, for Trump. Maybe expand the war in all directions, arrest protestors, politicians and dissenting media voices at home and away we go - and then start nuking people when the US body count gets too high! That's a possible scenario. There are other better scenarios, like Trump dropping dead and maga falling to pieces or a resistance within the military - so fingers crossed. But in any case, i reckon it's definitely in Trump's interest to start a major war.
I find it striking that Israel, Iran and Maga America all have theocratic motivations. They're also lead by, as the article headlines, 'angry old men'. It's right to question the sanity of each of them, as Tisdall does. As long as each of them remain in power, and with Putin watching on (another angry old man), this could end everything on earth. And again i ask...for what? Iron age fantasies and frail egos? It's pathetic.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2025 5:09 pm
by stevebrooks
Well, talk about mad!
“ICE Officers are herewith ordered, by notice of this TRUTH, to do all in their power to achieve the very important goal of delivering the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History,” he wrote, while travelling to Canada for the G7 summit.
“In order to achieve this, we must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside.
“These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center,” he added, before claiming that undocumented immigrants used to “expand their voter base, cheat in elections, and grow the Welfare State”.
He added he has directed his entire administration “to put every resource possible behind this effort, and reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia.”
“To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE!”
So targeting cities in states that voted against him, this isn't going to end nicely. Apart from the lies, undocumented immigrants CAN'T vote, it's impossible, they have to have valid ID as a US citizen to register to vote in the first place, it's all lies, but of course he throwing a poopy because his parade was a flop and there were huge marches against him in all these cities as well. It's like a 5 year old throwing a tantrum because nobody came to his birthday party, it's dangerous for both the civilians and the agents tasked with carrying out his mad orders, Mad King Trump, that's who they have in charge now!