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Umm, wow?

Oh dear, it seems that Trump and other Republican's, realising what a huge mess it is, are now coming out and calling for the protection of IVF in Alabama, but they don't seem to realise what they have done do they! Their demands that IVF be protected in Alabama is a direct contradiction of their claimed intention on overturning Roe V Wade, it was all about the states having the right to decide, now they have suddenly decided well no, that was a bad idea.

Of course it's all to late, I mean what can they do? There's nothing they can do to change it, because declaring embryos legally children, that takes it out of the realm of politics and puts it fair and square in the hands of law enforcement. If an embryo is destroyed, either on purpose or by accident, any owner of the embryo has every right to call for the arrest and charging of the ones responsible, murder and etc, that's the law now, handed down by the Alabama Supreme Court, these are children, and killing children is murder! They brought this on themselves, it was their hill to die on!

I mean they can say all this stuff;

Earlier on Friday, in an apparent effort to ease concerns in the state, Alabama's Republican Attorney General Steve Marshall said he did not intend to prosecute IVF providers or their families.

But what happens when some people decide to press the matter forward through the courts via civil charges? What happens f they elect a new Republican Attorney General who does decide to enforce this rule They can't stop either of those. The principal is, don't make laws you don't intend to enforce or ever actually intend to be enforced, because once they are there someone, some time, will decide to enforce them.

Here quite clearly is their error;

"There are zero Republican Senate candidates who support efforts to restrict access to fertility treatments," the committee's executive director, Jason Thielman, wrote in the memo which was obtained by the BBC's US partner, CBS.

The ruling by the Alabama Supreme Court in no way restricts access to IVF treatments, there's nothing about it that does that, it's perfectly fine in that regard. What it does do is place a burden so high on simple human error, the act say of accidentally dropping a glass tray, that no-one dares risk actually doing that. So no, no-one is restricting access to IVF, even the Supreme Court Judge who passed down the ruling isn't advocating that so they have no position on which they can challenge this ruling, oops!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68388232

An interesting site to watch...

https://payuptrump.com/

Racist in chief continuing with his racist rants. Now he says because he has been indicted black people like him more. I am presuming because black people are often unfairly punished compared to white people, and often charged even when innocent, and that his repeated claims of being innocent and being treated unfairly are creating a fellowship between himself and black people. Of course black people are charged with things like, "walking while black" and "driving a nice car while black," and are sometimes not even charged but actually just murdered, so it seems to me they shouldn't see any similarity between an orange shaded billionaire white man being fined hundreds of millions of dollars for property fraud and them being beaten up because they dared walk in a nice "white" neighborhood!



More here, not sure if he believes it or not but it's bizarre, I can't see any basis for this claim.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-black- ... 3eff04ada8

"dangerously demented".

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-joh ... dementing/

Irrev-Black wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:22 am An interesting site to watch...

https://payuptrump.com/

Heh heh.

But then what? Isn't he appealing it?

nibble wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 5:59 pm

Irrev-Black wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2024 11:22 am An interesting site to watch...

https://payuptrump.com/

Heh heh.

But then what? Isn't he appealing it?

He forgot and didn't apply by the due date, well maybe not him, his brilliant lawyers, who know almost as much as him about law. Of course he did try to file something, but since that actually referred to things that don't exist in law, he wanted to file a "counter-judgement" and nobody as actually sure what that is, that was dismissed the same day with one sentence from the judge. I think the word NO featured prominently in the sentence.

Trump is so rich he is arguing he should be required to post bond like, you know "poor" people, meanwhile the appeal could stretch on for years, giving him ample time to get back into power and use his presidential powers to destroy all his enemies (the judge, the prosecutor, the grand jurors etc)...however not posting bond doesn't nullify the requirement to post bond, he can apparently appeal without posting bond by simply refusing to post bond. The solution to him not posting bond is that 30 days after the judgement the prosecutor, the AG, can seize Trump asserts and sell them to satisfy the bond requirement, oops.

Also not posting bond has another effect, every day of not posting bond attracts over $100,000 in interest on the unpaid amount each day, and if the appeal to the appellate court takes a long time, and such appeals have been known to take years, the end result could be that Trump ends up owing in excess of a billion dollars due to the daily interest.

stevebrooks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:55 pm Trump is so rich he is arguing he should be required to post bond like, you know "poor" people, meanwhile the appeal could stretch on for years, giving him ample time to get back into power and use his presidential powers to destroy all his enemies (the judge, the prosecutor, the grand jurors etc)...however not posting bond doesn't nullify the requirement to post bond, he can apparently appeal without posting bond by simply refusing to post bond. The solution to him not posting bond is that 30 days after the judgement the prosecutor, the AG, can seize Trump asserts and sell them to satisfy the bond requirement, oops.

Also not posting bond has another effect, every day of not posting bond attracts over $100,000 in interest on the unpaid amount each day, and if the appeal to the appellate court takes a long time, and such appeals have been known to take years, the end result could be that Trump ends up owing in excess of a billion dollars due to the daily interest.

https://trumpdebtcounter.com/

What would the Trumpocalypse bring?

We ignore leaders who promise dictatorship— and those who enable them—at our own peril.

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