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Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:19 pm
by Loki
How are they planning on deporting these people?
Take them to the border and just throw them over?
That'll impress the Canuks and the Mexicans.
I spose they technically have a border with Russia so maybe they could throw them over that. Bit logistially difficult that one tho, seems a lot of effort.
Do these idiots understand that if you denaturalise people they don't automatically revert to whatever citizenship they (or their grandparents) started with?
Lot of suffering for a lot of largely innocent people incoming. Just so some racists can feel manly.
If i was Canada I'd send em straight back through the syrup smuggling tunnels.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 3:44 pm
by pipbarber
Beside the concentration camp/mass murder scenario there is another more likely possibility.
They'll just say they've deported 10 million without actually deporting anyone. As ridiculous as that sounds, the one thing the maga movement excels at is producing, and swallowing, bullshit. It could go down that way.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:18 pm
by stevebrooks
Loki wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 1:19 pmDo these idiots understand that if you denaturalise people they don't automatically revert to whatever citizenship they (or their grandparents) started with?
Yeah that point has been brought up by internet posters a few times, removing citizenship makes them stateless people.
Let's pop this here;
At the 2021 UNHCR High-Level Officials Meeting (HLOM), the United States committed to improving protection of stateless persons residing in the United States by adopting a definition of statelessness for U.S. immigration purposes and building a process for making statelessness determinations consistent with U.S. law. The Department of State supports the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) implementation of this commitment, which works to explore ways to reduce barriers to legally available immigration relief and benefits faced by stateless persons, increase data available on stateless persons in the United States, and examine the means through which DHS could facilitate work and travel for stateless persons.
So they are no longer illegal (or legal) immigrants, they are stateless, which creates an entirely different problem.
https://www.state.gov/other-policy-issu ... elessness/
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:22 pm
by two dogs
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:50 pm
by stylofone
I detect the telltale signs of AI slop. There's no immediate evidence of satire. It might actually be real.
In that case, I'm selling my house, I'll have 10 of everything. God bless America.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:54 am
by Loki
stylofone wrote: ↑Wed Nov 27, 2024 5:50 pm
I detect the telltale signs of AI slop. There's no immediate evidence of satire. It might actually be real.
In that case, I'm selling my house, I'll have 10 of everything. God bless America.
Gibson has issued Trump a cease and desist for stealing their designs.
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:21 pm
by stylofone
You look out your window and everything seems normal. You might be thinking "no, it's not that bad". But it is. That's a general observation. Specifically, this article suggests that if Kennedy continues as he started, a lot of people could die.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... rcna181605
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:24 pm
by stevebrooks
stylofone wrote: ↑Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:21 pm
You look out your window and everything seems normal. You might be thinking "no, it's not that bad". But it is. That's a general observation. Specifically, this article suggests that if Kennedy continues as he started, a lot of people could die.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-n ... rcna181605
Haha, chicken feed, here we are going down the wrong trouser leg of time. Remember last Trump administration his advisors had to dissuade him from bombing drug cartel headquarters in Mexico? Well guess what is advisors opinion is now? No idea? Here you go:
“How much should we invade Mexico?” says a senior Trump transition member. “That is the question.”
Not "whether" they should invade, but "how much they should invade." I mean what does that even mean? You can't just have a small invasion, a minor invasion, this is like Putin's invasion of Ukraine, just a small and quick invasion, shouldn't take a day or two, three at the most! Keep in mind these aren't just some meaningless bozo's in the future administration, these are his actual top picks, the Border Czar, Secretary of Defense, National Security Advisor, they're all mad!
Trump’s Cabinet picks, including his choices for secretary of defense and secretary of state, have publicly supported the idea of potentially unleashing the U.S. military in Mexico. So has the man Trump has tapped to be his national security adviser. So has the man Trump selected as his “border czar” to lead his immigration crackdowns. So have various Trump allies in Congress and in the media.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 235183177/
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:58 am
by wolty
Worth a read. I saw a comment someplace (not this article) about what Trump does. He says he's going to do something, doesn't do it and then says he did do it and declares victory. I'm guessing he may do this with the tariff thing. Use it as a threat for something that is already happening.
https://newrepublic.com/article/188854/ ... mp-tariffs
Re: Donald Trump
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:26 am
by stylofone
wolty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2024 7:58 am
Worth a read. I saw a comment someplace (not this article) about what Trump does. He says he's going to do something, doesn't do it and then says he did do it and declares victory. I'm guessing he may do this with the tariff thing. Use it as a threat for something that is already happening.
https://newrepublic.com/article/188854/ ... mp-tariffs
There's so much bad shit going down, today it's the horror of the non-stop lies of an alternative facts entity, and the MAGA hordes who lap it up. I'm reminded of lesson 10 from Timothy Snyder's little book "On Tyranny".
10. Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.
https://scholars.org/contribution/twent ... -twentieth